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Post by Ash Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:03 pm

I really like this Obama speech that he gave recently..

Even if you are an American who is oppossed to him, listen to his ideas and see if you disagree with them..

I certainly hope he gets a chance as President. We need it, imo.


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Post by Blixi Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:16 pm

I hope he becomes the next US president too. The US President affects the whole world, especially here in the Middle East. So American politics is of interest to many of us here.
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Post by ecthelion of the fountain Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:10 am

electing MacCain would not lead to much change at all, it would be like another 4 years of Bush. i really hope the American people is smart enough to elect Obama, for their own good. you cant repair a situation with this with tax cuts, even bushes advisors seems to have started to understand that.
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Post by Ash Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:14 pm

Actually, Obama's tax increase would only be for 5 percent of US citizens. Anyone making 250,000 or more a year. 95 percent of us would either have less taxes or no taxes under his proposals.

Which works for me!


Let alone, it's about time for some National Healthcare, which he also proposes, so that's another plus in my book.
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Post by ecthelion of the fountain Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:29 pm

if he can do that then he is a very smart man. in scandinavia we have some of the highest taxes in the democratic part of the world. but we also top the UNs lists over best place to live, together with canada who chime in now and then.
if obama can give you healthcare and all the other stuff we take for granted over here, without reaching our tax levels then all i have to say is congratulations....


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Post by Ash Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:59 am

indeed. Although we do actually have pretty high taxes, only a little bit less than you.. and We get pretty much nothing for it. elf
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Post by ecthelion of the fountain Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:20 am

thats because
A) your whole country is built around the car, if somebody is going for a long ride in sweden they take the train or the buss... (bye bye oil) and railways costs alot less to sustain then motorways...
this also makes the trains alot nicer then in alot of other counties, we have 1rst class and stuff on them Razz
B) you keep declaring war on everybody, you are probably the oen country in the world that spends most tax money on stuff that goes on outside your borders
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Post by Ash Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:37 am

Bingo. I know, I 've also hated how this country, especially in the
West, is built around the Automobile. You can't get around to well
without one, which is annoying and expensive.
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Post by ecthelion of the fountain Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:06 pm

in sweden, as long as you aren't a plummer or some other trade that drives around between houses all day, the only time you need a car is if you are drunk and you have missed the buss, but then you can always call a cab Razz
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Post by Ash Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:13 pm

yea, I hear it is the same in Germany. Although for me, I am a tradesman, so I would still need a van most likely, in those climates.
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Post by ecthelion of the fountain Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:31 pm

well yeah, most swedes that don't work in the city center of a bigger town end up getting a car... especially if they get kids...
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Post by Ash Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:31 pm

i can't wait til the elections are over with. man oh man, it is tiring. the country;s getting robbed blind by the government/corporate owners of the government.. so we have plenty of other things to deal with, that's for sure.
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Post by ecthelion of the fountain Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:33 am

well who ever wins will have his hands tied for atleast a year, the bailout will really cut down on his budget.
i would have liked to see what had happened if obama had runned earlier and had been elected instead of bush, then he would have had that big surplus that clinton left, instead of the huge debts bush has created.
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Post by Ash Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:02 am

yea.. we just got robbed for the second time with that bail out, it shows who is really in power, in my opinion. I hope Obama throws some of those corporate thieves in jail. That right there would help boost consumer confidence.
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Post by stefan Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:25 pm

interesting points. Though I think we have alot more issues that just one man can solve in a few years. we need alot of change in all levels of government and I think mainly we need a spiritual revolution. Absolute greed and Powerhunger has taken over the USA. The dollar has become the new god, and people are just expendable assets for ataining more profits.
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Post by Blixi Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:50 pm

The world is very troubled. Like always.
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Post by ecthelion of the fountain Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:52 am

true, but mccain can't offer that change... he suppported the politics who created this mess.... not to mention the crowd that he spends his time with
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I think What, ecthelion..., is trying to say... gaah


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Post by Ash Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:51 pm

woah.

Is that Mcbush?


What about Hillbama?

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McCain seems like a nice guy, but I don't see how he's gonna pull this election off at this point, that's for sure.

So it looks like the scary Communist, Socialist, Terrorism supporter is gonna be President, which is fine with me, cause he I know he ain't known of that. haha. Like a Star @ heaven

...that was my good English, btw.
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Post by Blixi Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:18 pm

lol!


I'm not sure which one is scarier.
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Post by ecthelion of the fountain Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:47 am

McCain seems like a nice guy

really? have you seen him and his vice presidents rallys latly? they are like hate-fests... calling obama a muslim terrorist and people in the crowd yelling "kill him"
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Post by Ash Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:26 pm

There's extremists that show up on both sides rally's. For sure.
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Post by ecthelion of the fountain Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:45 pm

i guess thats true... but the diffrnece between obama and mccain is that obama didn't choose one of them to be his vice president...
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Post by Ash Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:26 pm

lol.. That's good. santa
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:03 am

I don't think McCain is a "bad" person...I just don't think he really understands the current times unless it involves war. He definitely does not understand the future of the world...Watching him in tonight's debate, the last one thankfully, I felt like...

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