So you've decided you want to be a goth?

by Ash Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:33 pm

You might have seen this, but it is hilarious..

by ecthelion of the fountain Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:02 pm

pretty funny... but they missed out on some important details though, the band shirts only work for the old school goth that came from punk, most obvious example is cyber and romantigoths that can't really work band shirts into their outfits, therefor the universal goth indicator is not the Bauhaus t-shirt but the ankh

by Oddly Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:03 am

ecthelion of the fountain wrote:pretty funny... but they missed out on some important details though, the band shirts only work for the old school goth that came from punk, most obvious example is cyber and romantigoths that can't really work band shirts into their outfits, therefor the universal goth indicator is not the Bauhaus t-shirt but the ankh

True, they totally left out the whole velvet and lace thing...and a bunch of good bands with ridiculously nonsensical names, but yay, EN!

Also you see, this video is rather old. There are the Pre-Raphaelite Punk that have come to bridge the gap between the old skool, more punk-influenced deathrock kind and the pretty, pretty Romantigothical folk...those cyber folks are on their own *just kidding*.
I saw a lovely couple in very pretty Edwardian-style garb made entirely of red and black PVC, so yes, we can all intermesh and live happily in Gothdom as long as well all agree that Valor Kand is very mean and sucks majorly.

*Note: the Pre-Raphaelite Punk do not actually exist...but they do combine the artsy-fartsy, fancy-schmancyness and swirly music of the Romantigoths with the delapidated and slash-uppedness and the kick ass/ass-kicking music of the Punk/Deathrock scene...and a bunch of other way cool stuff. It's pretty frickin' sweet!*

by ecthelion of the fountain Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:31 pm

got any good link on Pre-Raphaelite punk? i've heard alot about it but i can't get into my head how it all coems togetehr/works... i mean the Pre-Raphaelites where hellenists while romanticists are as we all know heavy into the gothic era

by Donald effin' Duck Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:55 pm

These sorts of discussions make me glad I never got any further into goth than I did. That, and keeping up appearances... the corset-coat and claw rings and ankhs and pentagrams and mournful looks were just a big hassle in the end. Jeans, boots, a band tee, and a leather jacket are all I want or need anymore.

by Oddly Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:42 pm

ecthelion of the fountain wrote:i've heard alot about it but i can't get into my head how it all coems togetehr/works... i mean the Pre-Raphaelites where hellenists while romanticists are as we all know heavy into the gothic era

Like I,...I mean, like the note said, the Pre-Raphaelite Punk do not actually exist...*wink*

ecthelion of the fountain wrote:got any good link on Pre-Raphaelite punk?

You're looking at it. Her...or part of it anyway. The link.

To be honest it may mostly just be me now.... scratch

...unless there's some other small off-shoot of oddly dressed Gothical musicians with untypical instruments under that banner, which to be honest, that would be rather cool.

Just remember, they don't really exist!

by Ash Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:56 pm

I've noticed this pretty much applies to adolescents. Most adult (as in 20's and up) that might frequent goth klubs definitely don't fit into the categories of this vid. Although It does still have some valid observasions. hha.

by Oddly Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:22 am

Twas a funny video.

by Oddly Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:31 am

Donald effin' Duck wrote:These sorts of discussions make me glad I never got any further into goth than I did. That, and keeping up appearances... the corset-coat and claw rings and ankhs and pentagrams and mournful looks were just a big hassle in the end. Jeans, boots, a band tee, and a leather jacket are all I want or need anymore.

Instead of 'keeping up appearances' or trying to keep up with the fashions, one must create their own personal style ~ like you did...

I do know what you mean though, the Gothically-inclined are not immune from becoming tragic fashion victims, many are quite prone to such nonsense.

by Donald effin' Duck Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:41 am

Meh. I just decided to stop trying to look so blasted sad and feminine all the time. I was even sashaying around like a chick, to make the fullest aesthetic use of the wasp waist provided by the corset. Heck, with my long hair and the fact that I was pretty cadaverously thin to start with, I'm pretty sure I could have been mistaken for a girl from a distance, and probably was at least a few times. Surprisingly enough, though, I only got called a fag by random passers-by twice.

by ecthelion of the fountain Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:35 pm

Oddly wrote:
ecthelion of the fountain wrote:i've heard alot about it but i can't get into my head how it all coems togetehr/works... i mean the Pre-Raphaelites where hellenists while romanticists are as we all know heavy into the gothic era
Like I,...I mean, like the note said, the Pre-Raphaelite Punk do not actually exist...*wink*

ecthelion of the fountain wrote:got any good link on Pre-Raphaelite punk?
You're looking at it. Her...or part of it anyway. The link.

To be honest it may mostly just be me now....
...unless there's some other small off-shoot of oddly dressed Gothical musicians with untypical instruments under that banner, which to be honest, that would be rather cool.

Just remember, they don't really exist!

preraphaelitepunk.com

by Oddly Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:11 am

Donald effin' Duck wrote:Meh. I just decided to stop trying to look so blasted sad and feminine all the time. I was even sashaying around like a chick, to make the fullest aesthetic use of the wasp waist provided by the corset. Heck, with my long hair and the fact that I was pretty cadaverously thin to start with, I'm pretty sure I could have been mistaken for a girl from a distance, and probably was at least a few times. Surprisingly enough, though, I only got called a fag by random passers-by twice.

Ah yes, my former beau and musical companion was a very pretty skeleton man also, and there were a few times when we were mistaken for a lesbian couple, even up close. *I may or may not have been considered the butch one, who knows? He was taller, thinner, and more graceful than I, so maybe.*

by Oddly Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:37 am

ecthelion of the fountain wrote:preraphaelitepunk.com

Yeah, I had stumbled upon her blog before, excitedly hoping that she might be a fellow strangely-garbed musician, but no...she does, however have many great veggie recipes and crafty ideas. And I do very much like her explanation of 'Pre-Raphaelite Punk':

'Think Waterhouse’s “Lady of Shalott,” only without the passivity and with a snarky attitude. Combine pretty much equal parts melodrama and acerbity, add a little hidden core of sappiness, wrap it in black velvet, and that’s pretty much me.'

That is, also, pretty much me, though with a more musically-inclined meaning...
Also, with her wonderfully red, crazy Loreena Mckennitt-esque hair, she may be more Pre-Raphaelite than some of us...them...it doesn't exist.

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