Next step for Blackmetal

What do you think is the next step for Blackmetal?

What can make the genre more fresh?

the speed is done, the darkness is done, the oldschool stuff is done, the anger is done!
What can be the new stuff??? .... but still unique and true for the scene??

or what do you wanna get from a new Bm record in your hand?

reggae metal? is done... rap metal? is done... classical music + metal? is done...

hard question... maybe you could mix black metal and dutch hardcore techno or splintercore

I think the bm scene need to catch something from the dark goth/electronic scenes.
Some of them can realy create atmosphere.

I agree 100 percent on that, Jonas.

Plus, if a genre doesn't evolve, it will die, in my opinion.

isn't that what's called dark metal? black metal mixed with gothic and stuff like that?

what about electronic black metal?

ps: acapella black metal already exists... i have a song on my computer

Songwriting is more important than originality... if the song has heart and soul, is well written..etc....the individuality of the writer(s) will come through and the outward aesthetics won't be as important. I don't care where black metal or any other genre 'goes'. It seems we just can't be content these days.

I'm not sure if there are things that still have to be done.

I personally would like to make a darkwave folk project,
but I don't have the musicians or abilities to do it all myself

Darkmetal is often more friendly blackmetal in my ears. The electronic makes it more kind in some way. Correct me if im wrong.

The true atmosphere in electronic goth/ebm is often more raw and darker than the most bm bands.
Its not nessecary to mix two genres together. Im looking for the two atmospheres together. And then start to carv the songs.

And dress up like the matrix guys and play!!

jonas von barsk wrote:

And dress up like the matrix guys and play!!

Woo-hoo...



That sounds like fun.


Btw, Jonas. Do you still play bass in some bands?

haha, that matrix idea would be really cool :D and you're right about the atmosphere of ebm bands...

"If man could be crossed with the cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat." -Mark Twain

Electronic = man

Black metal = cat

Black metal is not in danger of dying, nor would all this electronic/symphonic hogwash save it if it were. The deeper you get into the subgenre and the more outstanding bands you hear that possess neither sampling/electronics nor overwhelming keys, the more you will come to respect black metal as an entity unto itself.

Kamerad Ash wrote:

jonas von barsk wrote:

And dress up like the matrix guys and play!!

Woo-hoo...



That sounds like fun.


Btw, Jonas. Do you still play bass in some bands?

Oh yes i do! music is air for me!

Too bad I wasn't in sweden, we could collaborate and create a new style of metal/dark industrial or something, since we both see that as plausible.

I'd join :p

woo-hoo... never hurts to dream I guess.

or just move to sweden!

That would be sweet and I would probably do something just like that if I had alot of money saved up.

let's all move to sweden !!

yess


*working on some beats on the keyboard right now*

BloodDrift wrote:let's all move to sweden !!

I think everyone is already doing that.

jonas von barsk wrote:I think the bm scene need to catch something from the dark goth/electronic scenes.
Some of them can realy create atmosphere.

ever heard cradle of filth?

ecthelion of the fountain wrote:

jonas von barsk wrote:I think the bm scene need to catch something from the dark goth/electronic scenes.
Some of them can realy create atmosphere.

ever heard cradle of filth?

Cradle of Filth only has the look of Goth. I'd say as far as musik... they are nothing innovative at all.. like Jonas is referring too.


A band that is doing something very, very innovative woudl be Ice Ages, which is the new band of Protector from the infamous Summoning.
His new album especially, is something I know I have never quite heard before, while also being beautiful and dark.

I've got the feeling that metal is gonna be next to blues and jazz. Good, well developped musical styles but there's no big progression to make. But maybe I'm wrong.

Kamerad Ash wrote:

ecthelion of the fountain wrote:

jonas von barsk wrote:I think the bm scene need to catch something from the dark goth/electronic scenes.
Some of them can realy create atmosphere.

ever heard cradle of filth?

Cradle of Filth only has the look of Goth. I'd say as far as musik... they are nothing innovative at all.. like Jonas is referring too.


A band that is doing something very, very innovative woudl be Ice Ages, which is the new band of Protector from the infamous Summoning.
His new album especially, is something I know I have never quite heard before, while also being beautiful and dark.

only the look of goth? please why do you think they are treated as commercial sell-outs by the rest of the bm community? because they now have included so much goth into the music that it doesn't sound like old fashioned black metal anymore. infact because of all the goth, and the bm communitys obsession with what music is tr00 enough they are now by many labled "gothic extreme metal"
how ever i do agree on the fact that mr.filth has been less innovative latly, only playing on past sucess. but i guess that goes for all the big boys, when you make it that big you start playing it safe. and they are after all the biggest brittish metal band since maiden.

maybe not their most gothic song, but it holds a bit of both and i do love it alot... besides the black metal scene has always loved the myth of bathory haven't they

they have more electronic songs too... but i'm not to big a fan of those